Erdős problem 1175
Let be an uncountable cardinal. Must there exist a cardinal such that every graph with chromatic number contains a triangle-free subgraph with chromatic number ?
Sources
FormalConjectures/ErdosProblems/
1175.lean
Shelah's consistency result: it is consistent with ZFC that there exists a graph with chromatic number such that every triangle-free subgraph of has chromatic number strictly less than .
This shows that a negative answer to Problem 1175 (with ) is consistent, so the main statement erdos_1175 is not provable in ZFC.
Formalization caveat (consistency placeholder). Shelah's result is a *consistency* statement — it asserts the existence of a model of ZFC, not a ZFC theorem. Lean operates inside a single (fixed) model of its set theory, so we cannot directly express "consistent with ZFC" without leaving ZFC. Rather than pretend that Shelah's theorem is a bare ZFC negation, we record it here as an explicit answer(sorry) consistency placeholder: the intended conjecture is the model-theoretic statement, and any concrete formalisation must either appeal to an explicit extra axiom (such as Shelah's specific forcing extension) or to a meta-theoretic consistency proof. Until such a wrapper exists in FormalConjectures, we leave the body as sorry.
True ↔ ¬∀ (V : Type u_1) (G : SimpleGraph V), G.chromaticCardinal = Cardinal.aleph 1 → ∃ H, H.coe.CliqueFree 3 ∧ H.coe.chromaticCardinal = Cardinal.aleph 1