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Erdős problem 1175

Let κ\kappa be an uncountable cardinal. Must there exist a cardinal λ\lambda such that every graph with chromatic number λ\lambda contains a triangle-free subgraph with chromatic number κ\kappa?

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Shelah's consistency result: it is consistent with ZFC that there exists a graph GG with chromatic number 1\aleph_1 such that every triangle-free subgraph of GG has chromatic number strictly less than 1\aleph_1.

This shows that a negative answer to Problem 1175 (with κ=λ=1\kappa = \lambda = \aleph_1) is consistent, so the main statement erdos_1175 is not provable in ZFC.

Formalization caveat (consistency placeholder). Shelah's result is a *consistency* statement — it asserts the existence of a model of ZFC, not a ZFC theorem. Lean operates inside a single (fixed) model of its set theory, so we cannot directly express "consistent with ZFC" without leaving ZFC. Rather than pretend that Shelah's theorem is a bare ZFC negation, we record it here as an explicit answer(sorry) consistency placeholder: the intended conjecture is the model-theoretic statement, and any concrete formalisation must either appeal to an explicit extra axiom (such as Shelah's specific forcing extension) or to a meta-theoretic consistency proof. Until such a wrapper exists in FormalConjectures, we leave the body as sorry.

FormalConjectures/ErdosProblems/1175.leanErdos1175.erdos_1175.variants.shelah_consistency3 linesExact file
True  ¬∀ (V : Type u_1) (G : SimpleGraph V),      G.chromaticCardinal = Cardinal.aleph 1 → ∃ H, H.coe.CliqueFree 3 ∧ H.coe.chromaticCardinal = Cardinal.aleph 1
SolvedStatement only, no proof

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